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Author: | Fritz [ December 20th, 2017, 8:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN180443 Quote: (W) Erik Burnham (A/CA) Dan Schoening For a while now, the original Ghostbusters have had access to an interdimensional portal that has given them all-new ways to research the paranormal and consult with Ghostbusters throughout the multiverse... but they haven't shared this tech with any of those other Ghostbusters, and some don't think that's fair. That's why, after a chance meeting, Jillian Holtzmann and Ron Alexander have decided to right this wrong and cobble together their own working portal... which unintentionally unleashes the contents of the Ghostbusters' Containment Unit! That's a lot of ghosts, and it's going to take a lot of Ghostbusters to recapture them. In fact, it's going to take ALL of them. Crossing Over starts here! * Featuring the return of the critically acclaimed and fan-favorite creative team of Erik Burnham, Dan Schoening, and Luis Antonio Delgado! * It's like the Ghostbusters version of Crisis on Infinite... er, you know what I mean! * First issue of an 8-issue maxi-series event! In Shops: Mar 28, 2018 SRP: $3.99 I hate to say this, but right now...I don't think I've ever been less enthused for a Ghostbusters comic ever. Not even when they announced that Louis Tully would appear in "Mass Hysteria" I hate feeling this way, but I see I'm not the only one underwhelmed... nikki wrote: Whining about sharing tech, more freaking dimensional portals, plus Ron Alexander.
This is the first time that I've ever been put off of buying a comic by a synopsis. |
Author: | nikki [ December 21st, 2017, 11:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
Sorry about the crosspost, Fritz. I wish I were more pumped for this because it seems like it should be a major thing, but I'm just not feeling it. I have major misgivings about it being overcrowded again, and too much 'screen time' will be spent on lesser characters like Ron Alexander or The Rookie, or even the new recruits. Also, since when have the Ghostbusters been weird about sharing technology with each other? They are always working with each other and sharing technical know-how with the other dimensional versions of themselves, even the ATC crew, so I don't quite understand Ron Alexander and Holtzmann's problem. Can't they just ask the Prime GBs for help? Ray and Peter zapped into the ATC dimension specifically to work with the ATC crew on their tech, so... I'm a little bit confused about that. |
Author: | Fritz [ December 23rd, 2017, 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
nikki wrote: Sorry about the crosspost, Fritz. I wish I were more pumped for this because it seems like it should be a major thing, but I'm just not feeling it. I have major misgivings about it being overcrowded again, and too much 'screen time' will be spent on lesser characters like Ron Alexander or The Rookie, or even the new recruits. Also, since when have the Ghostbusters been weird about sharing technology with each other? They are always working with each other and sharing technical know-how with the other dimensional versions of themselves, even the ATC crew, so I don't quite understand Ron Alexander and Holtzmann's problem. Can't they just ask the Prime GBs for help? Ray and Peter zapped into the ATC dimension specifically to work with the ATC crew on their tech, so... I'm a little bit confused about that. They may explain it. They may not. I think this story will probably be my breaking point--if that stupid dimensional portal isn't in pieces at the end, I'm out. I signed up to read about the Ghostbusters, not a constant stream of interdimensional guest stars and irritating spotlight hogs. |
Author: | Fritz [ March 11th, 2018, 9:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
Preview from Spook Central Pretty much what we'd already expected, though I did find the note from IDW Ray about "comparing notes" with the RGB Ghostbusters about the possibility of the Containment Unit being a pocket dimension--which in the animated universe, is definitely the case per "X-Mas Marks The Spot", Slimer's Sacrifice", etc. And for all the lateness that the IDW GB line has had to date, I have to note that Crossing Over #1 is actually going to be two weeks early. |
Author: | HauntedWallflower [ March 14th, 2018, 6:55 pm ] |
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Spoiler! |
Author: | Fritz [ March 14th, 2018, 8:31 pm ] |
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Spoiler! |
Author: | HauntedWallflower [ March 14th, 2018, 8:43 pm ] |
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Waaaatch it, Fritz, Egon Spoiler! |
Author: | nikki [ March 15th, 2018, 1:28 pm ] |
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Spoiler! |
Author: | Fritz [ March 15th, 2018, 1:54 pm ] |
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Spoiler! |
Author: | HauntedWallflower [ March 15th, 2018, 7:32 pm ] |
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Both of you bring up good points. Mrmichaelt even mentioned that Kaia May from International would be a potential choice as well, but it's doubtful. At any rate, waiting for April to arrive is gonna be just *sarcasm* lovely *end sarcasm.* |
Author: | Moonchild [ April 5th, 2018, 8:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
Spoiler! |
Author: | nikki [ April 7th, 2018, 6:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
Spoiler! I'm not entirely sure, but I thought that we almost did have an RGB 'I love you' moment with the Viking ghost storyline, right here: He stopped himself from saying something he didn't want Roger to overhear, and my theory is that he almost said that he loved her. I'd like to think that whole storyline was about him realising his feelings for her. He uses the gris-gris for the first (and only time so far) on her, his language during the confrontation with her Viking ancestor places him in equal if not more importance than her actual boyfriend, and he even admits that he knew she had feelings for him and the only excuse he has for not doing anything about it is that he was too busy. I noticed that the RGB character card for Egon implied he was more in touch with his feelings than his IDW counterpart, but I think IDW Egon seems to be more aware of how he feels about Janine than the RGB version did. IDW Egon admitted he was jealous of Roger; he had studied Janine's behaviour with her other boyfriends; he admitted he knew that Janine had feelings for him; he used the gris-gris on her; I think he also created a computer programme to try to attract her. He seems to have gone to more efforts to study and analyse it than RGB Egon did. The next logical step would be for him to do something about it, but he hasn't got there yet. I feel like it seemed to be so close to happening, and I thought maybe when he had the leg injury Janine might try and help him, and she might let slip she had broken up with Roger, and so on, but that didn't happen. Since then there doesn't seem to have been many opportunities for any relationship growth to happen. The argument on the Firehouse roof seems to be the only real conversation they have had together and that felt like decades ago. Sometimes it seems like they spend hardly any time together, and I wonder if they are being kept apart on purpose. I'd love for them to have a coffee together at Pequod's and just talk things out a bit. He confided in Donatello in the TMNT/GB 2 Crossover so maybe he is beginning to open up a bit more. Who knows? Hopefully it will be sometime soon. I'd like to see their relationship progress in my lifetime, at least before I hit my eighties. |
Author: | Moonchild [ April 10th, 2018, 6:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
Under spoiler 'cause it's super long: Spoiler! TL; DR: -The Vikings thing, I think, would have worked for a love declaration had Roger been elsewhere, which is why I think that, with him gone, this time and with Janine possibly leaving, it COULD finally work out. -RGB Egon is a nice, decent, if clueless fellow where IDW Egon can be a jerk sometimes and fails to understand that he can't approach love the way he approaches atomic science. -I have my fingers crossed for the comics team doing good for us fans, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it. |
Author: | nikki [ April 13th, 2018, 4:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ghostbusters: Crossing Over #1 |
Moonchild wrote: In a nutshell, I think the issue might be that RGB Egon IS more in touch not only with his feelings but the understanding that others have feelings and he has to be considerate with them, but can still fail at this at times because he's genuinely clueless about it, even innocent at times. IDW Egon has never stopped to think for his own or others' feelings and can be insensitive from not caring about the way he says thing as much as he cares about being accurate about what he's saying, but is also less clueless and awkward about it than his cartoon counterpart. He at least has a very approximate idea of what is appropriate or not, he's just not... interested on playing along with it. After all, some would consider the fact that he made a chart off Janine's dating life pretty creepy, but he made it because he needed the visual comparison. That's true, and I love your analysis. I think that the IDW-verse Egon and Janine seem to be more mature than the RGB-verse ones. IDW Egon doesn't seem intimidated by her as RGB Egon sometimes was, and IDW Janine doesn't seem as flirtatious towards him as RGB Janine. RGB Egon was all about denial, while IDW Egon's like, 'okay, I know she's likes me and I know I like her - I've researched it and everything'. It feels like it could be the real thing and not just playing around. Not that the RGB-verse necessarily played around with their relationship, but the characters seem to be taking things a bit more seriously in the IDW world, if you know what I mean. I would love to see IDW Janine getting her flirt on with IDW Egon, just to see how he responds. Part of me thinks he wouldn't take the bait but another part of me thinks that IDW Egon might just flirt back... He does seem to have a bit of a wicked sense of humour at times. Quote: I think the issue with them spending time together might be a) There's a ton of characters now, and they all have to be in panel at some point, so sometimes the mains get ignored a bit. b) They have a determinate number of pages to fill per delivery, so they end up economizing in what personal relationships respect in pro of giving the action scenes and general plot the main spot. Even Peter and Dana only got like a couple of pages for closure of what used to be the main couple of the franchise! c) It grieves me to say this, but it seems to me like they've picked up too many stories and as a result some have been left hanging. Look at that thing with the gris-gris bag, it either got a very disappointing end or has been hanging for literal years now. I find it frustrating. I keep wondering how much more of an emotional impact Egon's 'death' would have had if Janine had been helping him study the Rouskinna instead of Kylie (or at least popped by to help restock his fridge if he couldn't manage his apartment stairs). Continuing on from what had happened after the Viking incident, their relationship could have begun to develop and just as Egon discovers that Janine's single again, he's gone. If IDW can't stretch the time for them to get a coffee together (though they stretched it enough for Peter and Rebecca to have a flirty moment, and whole mega storylines for Jenny and Ray and Tiyah and Winston), then maybe a teeny-tiny bit of positive dialogue between them, I don't know. Honestly, I'd be happy with a bit of hand-holding or just some small reciprocal gestures of affection between them both. Small things, but at least something to show they really care about each other, and not only when they are (or have been in) mortal danger. |
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