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PostPosted: July 7th, 2018, 7:26 am 
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Here is a reminder of what's coming up next from the Collinsverse. On Sunday 15th July (that's a week from tomorrow) 'Kevin and Oscar: Snapshots' kicks off as we pick up directly after the Christmas Special to find out exactly what happened at the Enchantment in the Sky dance, and immediately afterwards. Like 'Kevin and the Gang: In-Between', there are eight episodes in this series, this time charting the adventures of Kevin and Oscar between the end of 2003 and their backpacking tour of Mexico during the second half of 2006.

This batch had a few potential titles at various stages, but in the end I settled on 'Snapshots' because I thought that was the one which described it best - it really is a series of snapshots from Kevin and Oscar's lives during that three-year period, offering intriguing snippets of their interactions with friends, family, school, work (both voluntary and paid), hobbies, ambitions, globe-trotting adventures and, most importantly of all, each other. Believe it or not, there's even a ghost investigation in one episode!

It's almost two years since I wrote the first draft of this series and it's been through a whole lot of refinements to try to get it to make as much in-universe sense as possible (not least because of 'In-Between' coming along in the meantime) and I really think it's finally ready at last! You actually wouldn't believe the hours we've both spent trying to get the Collinsverse to make as much sense as possible, in terms of both events and characterisation, as well as eliminating anything that could even come close to being seen as a continuity error, but of course it's all been worth it! As we're often heard to remark to each other, the Collinsverse makes far more sense than the "real" world!

As has been mentioned before, 'Snapshots' will be dovetailed with Rosey's series of eight adventures involving Kylie and Eduardo spreading their wings during the summer of 2000, which is just after the main series of 'The Riveras' in case you've forgotten. Releases will continue to come every three weeks, so you're still getting stories from one and then the other of us in turn, although this time they'll make up two separate batches of adventures set at two completely different times. But don't worry - you'll soon get used to it, and it will all make perfect sense!

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PostPosted: July 15th, 2018, 6:18 am 
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Kevin and Oscar: Snapshots, Episode 1 - Truth and Consequences, by me.

December 2003: In the aftermath of the Enchantment in the Sky dance, Beth and Dana are called in for a chat with the school principal. Meanwhile, Kevin and Oscar must face their friends, their enemies, and finally each other.

A couple of couples stop beating about the bush as this series kicks off, otherwise it wouldn't really be able to kick off at all! I think this is a pretty accurate depiction of how things would have been in 2003, but I don't think it would be the same now, at least not in every way. Hopefully this is a story to get you thinking, and also looking forward to some highly titillating young adult adventures to follow!

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PostPosted: July 16th, 2018, 7:03 pm 
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Kevin and Oscar: Snapshots, Episode 1 - Truth and Consequences, by me.

December 2003: In the aftermath of the Enchantment in the Sky dance, Beth and Dana are called in for a chat with the school principal. Meanwhile, Kevin and Oscar must face their friends, their enemies, and finally each other.

A couple of couples stop beating about the bush as this series kicks off, otherwise it wouldn't really be able to kick off at all! I think this is a pretty accurate depiction of how things would have been in 2003, but I don't think it would be the same now, at least not in every way. Hopefully this is a story to get you thinking, and also looking forward to some highly titillating young adult adventures to follow!


The real wild card is Carlos. He's definitely grown into a more tolerant person than he was, but there's still the chance he won't take this completely well.

Either way, it should be interesting to read. As always.
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It seems like a long time since I first read these stories, and I've forgotten some of the details (probably more in other stories than this relatively short one, though), so I too will be interested to see (well, be reminded) how things progress.

Although we've seen Mark Warner being a homophobic moron before, this was actually the first thing to be written where he does more than answer his name at roll call, and inspired his characterisation in previous releases. I particularly enjoy Michael's reaction to his behaviour, not because I advocate violence but because it provides a lot of consistency with what we learned about Michael the first couple of times we met him.

The varied reactions to what is revealed at the Enchantment in the Sky dance are very realistic, as far as I'm aware. Of course, all the people that matter are being totally supportive... so far!

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PostPosted: July 18th, 2018, 5:52 am 
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I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that Carl's feelings about Kevin/Oscar and his own continuing personal journey will play a huge part in the future of the Collinsverse, starting in the next episode of this series and (it's no exaggeration to say) continuing forever after.

One of my very first ideas for this series was that Michael's violent tendencies would be sure to flare up to defend Kevin from a homophobic classmate, and thus Mark Warner as we know him was born! By the way, we'll see at some point in the future (or should that be the past?) the exact exchange between twelve-year-old Michael and twelve-year-old Mark that made it pretty much a certainty that Michael would end up giving Mark a thorough pasting someday, but there's a lot to come before that!

Several of the tweaks I made to this series after "In-Between" was written involved Michael, who has turned out to be such an important character in the Collinsverse, and one of my very favourites. (Although I have a heck of a lot of very favourites, come to think of it!) I don't want to say I exactly toned him down, but I was forced to make a few pretty significant adjustments to him based on a couple of considerations from "In-Between", namely that we'd already gained a huge insight into his secret heart in relation to so many aspects of his life, and that he'd developed an incredibly close friendship with Kevin that I did not at first anticipate. But of course, as I've said before in this thread, Michael is always Michael - prone to fits of violence and moments of crippling self-doubt, which we now know come from a loving heart and a beautiful soul, no matter how unhelpful they might be at the time.

What I specifically think (or at least hope!) would be different about the situation presented in this story if it happened nowadays is that the school wouldn't call the parents in to discuss homosexual activity as if it's the same as bullying or bad marks or other such school problems. I suppose this probably depends very much on the individual school.

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As Jake has explained, the current set of releases are two dovetailed series, one by him and one by me. Today we see the beginning of:

Eduardo and Kylie's European Vacation
Set between The Riveras main series and Kevin and the Gang​, an eight-part series following Eduardo and Kylie's post-college trip through Europe.

Eduardo and Kylie's European Vacation, Episode 1 - Yorkshire, by me.

After beginning their European vacation with a return trip to Whitby, Eduardo and Kylie head to the literary village of Haworth, where a surprise awaits them.

The series is rated T, due to (which I'm sure anyone who knows anything about my fanfic will not be surprised to see) several pre- and post-coital moments.

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EGBFan wrote:
As Jake has explained, the current set of releases are two dovetailed series, one by him and one by me. Today we see the beginning of:

Eduardo and Kylie's European Vacation
Set between The Riveras main series and Kevin and the Gang​, an eight-part series following Eduardo and Kylie's post-college trip through Europe.

Eduardo and Kylie's European Vacation, Episode 1 - Yorkshire, by me.

After beginning their European vacation with a return trip to Whitby, Eduardo and Kylie head to the literary village of Haworth, where a surprise awaits them.

The series is rated T, due to (which I'm sure anyone who knows anything about my fanfic will not be surprised to see) several pre- and post-coital moments.


Sorry about taking this much time to comment on this--I've been a bit distracted lately with GenCon and personal stuff at home. :oops:

Interesting, and educational. Good twist near the end, with an actual ghost showing up.

I take it you have problems with Goblet of Fire? :lol:

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It's great to see some more of Eduardo and Kylie at this stage in their relationship - I can really feel what an exciting adventure this trip is for them both in so many different ways.

I recognise quite a bit of this particular part of their European tour as very similar to some experiences I myself have been involved with, namely visiting Whitby at differing times of year and making comparisons, and walking all the way up Butt Lane after a very nice train ride and then reading in the churchyard while someone else goes around the museum.

'I'm making a courgette frittata out of what we had left apart from breakfast cereal,' said Kylie.
Thank goodness they didn't have to settle for an onion and an egg!

Also, thank goodness they took sufficient clothes for when the weather suddenly changed up on the moor; I suspect they made the right decision not to take them off in that particular situation, although it was a close-run thing.

As I said when I first read this story, I think Branwell should set his sights a lot higher if he wants to plagiarise a book - any other Harry Potter book would be at least a little better (and of course the series was extremely popular at the time, so I can certainly understand his thinking) but he should see what's out there and consider his options very carefully.

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Thanks for the comments, boys.

This is one of only two stories in the eight-part series directly inspired by a trip I've taken, the other one being the last one (Jake wasn't on that trip, but the younger sister of the boy who inspired Michael's naked locker room walk was!). The fourth Harry Potter book came out in the UK on 8th July that year, and since I'd been inspired by my own experiences in Brontë country, it only made sense to combine the two literary themes to create something of a plot.

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I take it you have problems with Goblet of Fire? :lol:


I'd better not get started on what they are. :roll: Instead, staying on-topic, I know that some pretty bad (though not well-remembered) fanfic has in the past resulted from people projecting their own tastes onto their favourite characters, but in this case I think it's fair to say that the source material gives us a precedent for Eduardo liking children's fantasy literature and Kylie liking classics (the latter specifically from a crappy, crappy episode, but generally from her overall character too). With this in mind, I think it's okay for Eduardo to express similar opinions to mine - and (you may notice :P) Jake's as well - on Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, and for Kylie to share my precise views on the most famous works on the Brontë sisters (I don't know whether she agreed with me when she got around to reading Charlotte's other books, as she must surely have done by now).

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